WebRock River Arms is a firearms manufacturer that produces a variety of rifles, pistols, and parts for civilian, law enforcement, and military markets. What opinion? Henry and Ruger get my votes for Americas Gunmakers. As for Winchester still keeping an eye out for someone selling Grandads old 94 thats beat to hell but still shoots straight so I can beat it up a bit more. Welp. This would appear to be financial suicide by Springfield. You probably also found out that at least bizapedia reports that the IFMA was dissolved. Asit should. I posted a similar comment on another article about the same subject matter, but again, and for emphasis: SPRINGFIELD IS DEAD TO ME. Free Shipping On Most Rifles, Upper Halves And Complete Lower Halves. Lower Half, A2 Stock Just From $410. Sorry for the spelling error. Does anyone really buy RRAs BS, We didnt know? Its not just selling, genius. But they were happy to allow their lobbyist to finagle them a carve out. Along with lost new sales, this boneheaded move will kill resale values. I also find their use of Springfield Armory in their advertising repulsive, implying over 240 years of history in the current company, starting in 1777. The silent majority will get the shaft, not gonna be any civil war, get over yourself. Kahr moved out of NY. The dimensions and leade of the .223 Remington minimum C.I.P. Includes larger .1555 MSRP: $111.99 $75.81. Out of stock. For folks like me, it is no longer enough to be willing to fight and die for these rights, but to be willing to kill for them as well. Rock River Arms (RRA) has introduced a new AR-style rifle to its lineup, designed specifically with the modern hunter in mind, with the new All Terrain Hunter (ATH). Thats bad, dont get me wrong. Great comment, but I dont think it is enough. How does a company respond to pernicious laws and an atmosphere which is detrimental to the People of the Gun? You would answer your own question if you noticed my opening remark: Ruger was making superior quality products using totally American resources. I used to have a TRP. No wonder were in trouble, POTG are clueless. Sadly I have two. This isnt really about the law itself. IFMAs Keller testified in March at the Illinois Senate Judiciary committee of his willingness to consider dropping the lobbying groupsopposition to the bill if his clients were exempted. Thats bad math and bad leadership. LAR 8 is a nice weapon. It doesnt have to be both for the same reason. Performance Tuned. I thought it was great that they were living in the same liberal hell hole that I was living in. This Rock River PCC shows itself to be a well-engineered carbine ready to work (and look good doing it). Thankfully, many of the downstate Dems are staunchly pro-gun. AND everyone that the lobbyist represents must be in agreement. Well, said. The company is based in Genesco Illinois, near Chicago. These two companies MUST be boycotted into bankruptcy. Was very interested in this new pistol too as a possible single-stack semi-auto alternative to my J-frame. And if they do, all the company has to do is say sorry like Ruger. ), I DO have a choice with firearms. Regardless of who did what,the after-effects of this deal and a legislative loss will be felt far beyond Illinois for some time to come. God Bless America, As a dealer I will no longer suggest either one of these firearm companies to my customers or stock them there are many other fine firearms on the market. Because of rumors of canceled orders. An American voting for a Democrat Glad I waited. Rock River Arms built its reputation on quality semi-automatic AR-pattern rifles and 1911 handguns. And whats worse, if it passes, Bloomberg will attempt to duplicate this legislation in all 50 states. This product has an average rating of 4 stars out of 5 stars from 3 ratings. That is only if Springfield Arms survives this. Divide & conquer. Neither excuse is a proper justification. cant hornor us people gun rights I say F THEM ALL. I would sell the xd .45 and the xdm 9mm I already have but I dont think there is much of a market for them now. Katrina gun confiscation showed us what any civil conflict will have as the belligerents, LEOs / Feds posing as LEOs giving you a hard choice.and a few Bundy-style standoffs. But when you have a muti million dollar company thats set up in a state thats you cant just pick up and move then you do what you have to do to survive. Springfield Armorys Defend your legacy has a huge hypocritical meaning now. They pulled the same crap for the Clinton ban, Amen almost bought a springfield I agree with you to hell with them sig glock ruger for me here on out. If these dam gun man. PERIOD. 2nd Amendment Supporters are up in "Arms" pun intended about the News broken by The Truth About Guns article concerning recent state licensing for all Illinois gun dealers that IFMA (Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association) a lobbying group back by Springfield Armory and Rock River Two more companies added to my do not buy from list. I was just about to order another springfield xdm .45. Reese is a business guy, not a gun guy, as this video demonstrates: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkfjwStDUUQ, At 1:02 hes pointing the XD at the host (which Leathem mentions, ?). Ruget supported the ban on high capacity (ie standard capacity) mags as it favored their line of sporting rifles like the mini-14. Springfield isnt doing anything that the vast majority of companies do, protecting their bottom line. I bought 6 smith & wessons before I ever knew about the incident. Even being on this site makes you a hypocrite because TTAG regularly advertised for Glock, S&W and Springfield. Here I was just falling in love with my SA 1911 Loaded. Sellouts. And their quality has never wavered (damn straight). Illinois acts like an evil, independant country when it comes to our Second Amendment rights, ignoring law and constantly jockeying for ways to squelch our right of self-protection through our right to bear arms. Until we destroy that party America will continue to be destroyed from within. Fuck Ruger as well. We will support our Illinois brethren and NOT purchase anything from Springfield Armory or RRA. That is their only 2 clients because it only exists and was created for them. RRA and Springfield can suck my dong, they will never get a penny from me. Youre welcome to come visit and help during the next election cycle. Web50%. NOW all I can think is SHAME ON YOU!!!!!! I want to see how they fix the mess they created with the people who liked their product. Please focus on customer relations and positioning strategies. They also make an Original Henry Rifle. AR-15 Parts. They are good weapons but I Cant help but feel betrayed when I look at them now. If signed into law, the bill his lobbyist declined to oppose will drive many dealers out of business with its onerous and expensive restrictions and requirements. Its their prerogative. Im both an Illinois resident and a SA collector with over half of my collection being custom and box SA products. Is there a list somewhere? There is too much crap that I dont have a choice on (can you believe EVERY RV tire is made in China? Seems like a stand up guy to me. After further review, Rock River Arms, Inc. (RRA) is immediately severing all ties with the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). We feel that IFMAs integrity is compromised and we will not be a part of the organization. If this bill actually passes, I think the hit should be pretty severe. Id bet a bunch of employees would jump at the chance go move from IL to TN or MO or TX. Go and ask them and Youtube/Periscope their responses. Send a signal to IL Senators and the Governor that supporting the bill is politically a trainwreck. Not saying you have to like what happened, but its soviet Illinois, it was going to happen with or without their opposition. It is in between 5.56 and .223, but will safely shoot both. What gets me is there has been plenty of time and opportunity for damage control or to save face but they havent done anything to fix what theyve done. No Springfield guns for me. And Im not giving them up, to anybody, under any circumstances. James Jeffrey, the author's friend, Ruger was making superior quality products using totally American resources. As a collector of modern handguns, I was very interested in Springfields new XD-E and was hoping to find one as soon as they became available until all of this political posturing took place in Illinois (I live in neighboring Indiana). It weighs 10.2 pounds empty and is 43.5 inches long. Bill Ruger was key in the implementing of the 94 AWB, refusing to sell evil 20+ round magazines to anyone but .gov entities? I hope that it will bankrupt them, for it appears to be the only way these gun companies will learned to to alienate their comsumers. I think it was meant to be used with gloves on only. when supply cant meet demand, then the price increases.. this draws more suppliers into the market to meet demand and you see the price decrease. In short, this means rifle-makers need to adapt, and one company taking that step is Rock River Arms (RRA) with its LAR-15 Operator III in 5.56mm NATO. Also check out the BM 59 kits and complete rifles out there. Hinterland #: 50977; MFG #: MT1800X; In stock. S&W was sold for 12% of its former value. That is sooo repetitious! If one of them didnt actually know about this then thats really not fair. And theyre telling their friends. Nobody moves a company to New York (Remington has moved most out). The NRA would likely throw you and your fliers in the dumpster. The ATH V2 comes with an 18-inch, stainless steel, How many Illinois politicians wind up going to jail? Layoffs to follow. What flavor is it, and how much do you want? http://www.nbcnews.com/id/28141995/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/illinois-has-long-legacy-public-corruption/, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_state_and_local_politicians_convicted_of_crimes. Fight it. Springfield could have fought thisor vocally opposed it on its way to potential passage. Whats the feedback at the NRA show running like? Wheres the proof they had enough influence to dictate what that organization did. So Rock River Arms story is complete crap and a bald faced LIE on the order of, I did not have sex with that women. But it will be history at my house. Granted, the company isnt run by a Henry these days but I thought the paper trail of ownership was fairly clear and unbroken. If CTD notices panic buying, shuts down their site and reprices everything, thats their right. This is why I said should not will. I see how you fired a shot across IFMAs bow last week. As the market changes so does our pricing. This rifle also has an RRA TRO-XL extended free float rail handguard and an accuracy of 3/4 MOA at 100 Yards. I agree. Find gray, black, tan, alpine and other finishes on these .223 Rem / 5.56mm, .450 Bushmaster or 6.8 SPC chambered rifles. After the next civil war, we wont allow another one. There are more corrupt justices out their than honest ones. Whats more, Larsonseems genuinely appalled by what happened. I hear you on that Ruger. If you dont like their price dont buy. If youre looking begin your 3-Gun or short-stage PRS competition endeavors, the Rock River Arms RRAGE 2G may be your ticket. Their entire C Suite should resign and they need to prove themselves. With all the gun control in northern Illinois how the hell can they screw all of us like this! The company makes a wide variety of weapons, Get a Dan Wesson instead. This says a lot about the people running the company. We need more FFLs down here so there will be some competition. Weve been busting our asses to support our friends and punish our enemies. If theres a silver lining here, this law should be shot down by the courts. Or in the General Assembly. Never sold out to foreign companies or parts sources or manufacturing or skimped on quality control. Smith and Wessons deal with the Klinton regime also brought us the infamous and deplorable hillary hole internal lock. At least Henry, like Ruger, is 100% American. Also, RRA derives the bulk of its money from government and LE contracts so youll have a really hard time bankrupting them with a civvie sales boycott. Out of stock Compare. He didnt say, Hey, we screwed up. Whats the hangup for SA? Obviously Springfield and others have not learned this lesson and are going down the same road. But I struggle with the NEVER AGAIN WILL I EVER SUPPORT THIS COMPANY. So Rock River spent at least $50.000 fund the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association. The innovation and embracing of modern ideas weve seen the last 10yrs (MSRs, suppressors, polymer everything, etc) never would have happened under Bill. Rock River Arms has built a reputation as a quality maker of modern sporting rifles and offers an extremely diverse list of models and options. (Im a 30 yr Vet). I will now buy another LAR-8 in case you idiots force RRA out of business. The .308-caliber LAR-8 is plenty of gun for big-game hunting. Make this a massive intractable mess. You see once you jump in bed with the marketing types and throw millions at image you quickly discover that your rudder fell off long ago and now youre not sure what you stand forif anything. The licensing fee? They profess innocence at this point, lets see if their actions match their words. I think sometimes its just because they are new to the hobby of guns. And unbelievably stupid of Springfield. Could be paperweights. Shame! They are a leader in the firearms field with a vast array of products that work correctly. After the event I hadnt seen a shipping notification. My sprinters were not seeing much action lately. Allexcept for gun owners and the non-big box store gun dealers who have to live and work in the Land of Lincoln. How is he still employed? Who Makes Rock River Arms? ! mantra. You should buy a BCM, Daniel Defense, or LWRC. Down side is nobody making spare mags for it yet other than Hornor Defense. Maybe the deal was the result ofa lobbyist gone rogue. Thank God we have a Rural King now here local. My target is when my oldest daughter graduates from high school. You can bet our sport; Henry wouldnt have gone along with that. WebRock River Arms LAR-15 Fred Eichler Predator 223 Remington/5.56 NATO AR15 Semi Auto Rifle $ Remove from Compare Add to Compare. Come to find out the guy had paid triple for the supply to be trucked in so people could have them. Like a shrewd negotiator, Harmonhappily added a manufacturer and big box retailer carve-out to the bill so he couldcobble together the last few votes he needed to get it through the Senate. By the time most of them have and Springfield Arms starts looking for a new home, they wont be welcome there. Expect deep, deep discounts on that warehouse full of XD-Es and Saints they were hoping to sell this summer. A Rock River two-stage match trigger or even a 3-pound single-stage trigger would be a recommended upgrade. The XD and Saint are good guns, but they really arent all that different from a lot of other good guns on the market. An xdm9 and a 1911 loaded. 3) Lobbyist got paid by someone else to convince his clients this was a slick deal. If you are willing to do 9mm, check out an Honor Guard. Some times they have deals. Most places, its still over $1500. Apparently, John Smith isnt an advocate of the constitution or specifically the second amendment. So, S and W are also dead to me. And by the way, sarcastically calling people badasses loses its effect when you get so butthurt by an article that you start calling the author a pu$$y. Did you expect anything less than shady from the Illinois legislature? But thats only a fraction of his treachery. After asking you if youd like to sign up for a membership, and cc insurance. Now for 2022, the company ups the game for hunters with the introduction of the All-Terrain Hunter (ATH) , a mid-length rifle that stands tall in the field of AR-platform hunting rifles. Great grip and trigger. Now that I understand what occurred its pretty obvious as gunners we need to pass on Springfield and run to Henry. Anyway, at least for now, I will bide my time and see if Springfield repents and takes positive actions to atone for their irrational IL acts. Of course lobbyists have the highest ethical standards, so thats just crazy talk. If CTD notices panic buying, cancels prior sales and refunds them, so it can resell stuff that belonged to its customers, thats not their right. Thankfully, we still have two more chances to stop this travesty of a bill. After Bill Ruger died, Ruger also dramatically changed direction. The rifle comes fully loaded with a Rock River two-stage Who Makes Rock River Arms? And then maybe. CTD does our best to price our products at market value. They are more than welcome in southern Indiana. This is going to be really bad for RRA and Springfield. Its like saying Saturn is really, really big, and huge, too! As for Springfield Armory, Im really sorry to see them cross over to the dark side. Defending Your Legacy is obviously just a marketing slogan for Springfield. Are more corrupt justices out their than honest ones be in agreement be both the. 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