Everything was aces with the Element 2 that I wont be able to pick up for a few more months, and as you can see in the video it also ran flawlessly with it and was nice and quiet to boot. This PPQ had zero issues with 4 or 5 brands of bulk ammo. The Safety detent fell apart. Federal is a lighter charge like UMC, and some guns have problems with it. According to the Walther website it IS zinc alloy, so somebody is wrong (and I hope its Walther???). Tastes like strawberry. What ammo do you use on your PPQ M2? The slide is incredibly easy to rack when the hammer is cocked, which is basically all of the time unless you dry fire it or encounter a dud round. Replacing the ammunition is the fix to this problem. Weak recoil spring: Feeding issues can also occur if the recoil spring of your gun is weak. Mentioned below are its causes and solutions. If it keeps up I'm going to have a gunsmith look at it. I put my G19 on a shelf in preference of the PPQ M1. and .4-inch travel. All these amazing features make it one perfect casual outerwear to get compliments from your fashion friends. No zinc alloy here. Twenty-two years later, the company had produced their first pistol, the Model 1 in 6.35mm. In general HV stuff (1200 fps+) seems to work well. I purchased an additional 15-round magazine for $42, and from what Ive found, they sell for roughly the same price around the country. Yes, I dont like that you need to pull the trigger to remove the slide, but there is no decocker. Shot about 150 rounds through the gun. The stainless steel construction is excellent. One of the reasons I love my CZ Kadet Adapter .22 LR upper conversion for my SP-01 is that it allows me to shoot .22 LR with the same grip, controls, and trigger as my go-to pistol, and the PPQ .22 can also provide this kind of experience for centerfire PPQ owners. But I did put a new slide spring in with no change. First off, have you tried different ammo? Now I have to go hunt one down for my AR. Its possible that a .22 LR doesnt punch the slide backwards with enough authority to reliably cock a striker with a spring stiff enough to ignite a .22 LR (vicious cycle, that). Its an excellent design. Only thing done is to experiment with different recoil springs. The barrel sleeve handles all of the wear from the slide cycling and takes most or all of the load from anything you add to the muzzle (and it looks like a normal barrel when the slide is back. The PPQ 22 was great to shoot, it has the same great ergonomics of the centerfire pistol and shares the same controls. New Walther PPS M2 jamming with anything but brass. Come on manwhat did you pay for it? In addition, the slides design is made to drain the water from the striker channel, making it practical for Maritime operations. The gun looks and feels great, but Ive had nothing but issues shooting it. I bought the PPQ .22 M2 in 5. Generally, too heavily lubricated means that you have used a lube that was good in warm weather, but now, the lube gums up the gun in cold weather. Well, the 5 inch match or target model of this Walther PPQ M2 .22 is 419.00. Its a marked improvement over any other pistol Ive ever fired It would put it self on safety when fired a few times. Just like we said in the 9mms review, it feels freaking awesome in the hand. Target acquisition with the FO sight is quick. The ergonmics alone have increased my 8 yd accuracy of 17 rounds to 1.8 in. Underpowered ammunition: An underpowered ammunition can also cause this problem. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Test the olgive. I shot one of these recently, I only put a magazine through it but I was impressed. I found this a little disappointing since it could affect that person whos seriously using this as a less-expensive-to-shoot practice tool for their centerfire PPQ. I did not expect much out of the trigger but after the first couple of shots I discovered that the trigger was what set this gun apart. The barrel and the slide are not correctly aligning while going back to the battery. .40 being stupid expensive to be all test this test that with. I think this guy will be on the to get list. I'm not in the market for an M2. Obviously, no gun is truly perfect. Jeremy is TTAG's Deputy Editor, working mostly behind the scenes but, when he attempts to write, he focuses on comprehensive gun & gear reviews. They are available with a 4-inch and 5-inch barrel, or the 4.6-inch that comes suppressor-ready. 9mm Pistol, Gun Review: Taylors & Company TC9 1873 SA Single Action Revolver, Classic Gun Review: Marlin Model 39 .22 Lever Action Rifle. My only complaint is that the muzzle flip is a bit excessive. Did Walther succeed and raise the bar yet again? Very good accuracy at 15 meters. My thumbs just arent long enough to use most grip-mounted mag release buttons without shifting my grip. Walther PPQ M2 Features. Question of the Day: Should Disguising a Real Gun as a Toy be Illegal? Some other functional similarities did carry over from Walthers other .22 LR pistols (P22, primarily), such as a fixed, threaded barrel thats clamped into the barrel block by a sleeve and a nut on the end. Apparently the Walther web site is incorrect. Walther calls it the quick-defense trigger. Haha. It was a $250 target pistol. I really dont want to let her go. Just pull the slide back slightly as with Glocks or CZs and engage the takedown lever. Overpowered ammunition: The overpowered ammo will blow the slide back so hard that it will engage the slide stop. They unveiled a new pistol that they claimed would not only fix the P99s few faults, but would update its already advanced features and appeal to the American market: the Police Pistol Quick Defense, a.k.a, the Walther PPQ. Get the rear sight sold by 10-8 performance: Walther PPQ Rear Sight - 10-8 Performance Store and get a fiber optic for the front sight. It also has a loaded-chamber indicator: When there is a round in the chamber, a red marking appears on the slide due to the extractor being pressed. If this Tactical version came with tall suppressor sights Id feel differently, but it doesnt so I dont. The better texturing on the M2 doesn't matter to me as I put a Talon on it anyway. Welcome to /r/pistols! I had never shot that round before. You have to make sure that you have a firm platform for the gun to operate against. Oddly Aguila pistol match (925 fps) and RWS pistol target (also ~900fps) also did cycle well, though I only tried one box of each due to cost. The 5 target model comes with a fiber optic front sight. The Striker Photo source: Walther Forums. On the negative side, the aluminum slide means the pistol is quite a bit lighter in weight than the centerfire ones, and being a firearm means it cant simply ship to your door like a conversion kit can. - Failure to feed/Failure to go into battery. The pistol is too heavily lubricated: When your pistol is too heavily lubricated, it can cause failure to return to battery. glad it worked out,,,,nothing worse then a brand new gun with issues. Fixed Front Sight with Fast Acquisition Dot. Dont get me wrong, by no means do I consider myself a professional shooter. Some standard velocity works though, you just have to find out which. Not so fast. Exactly. i guess i coulda bought a ruger, they have phenomenal customer service. Why this happens is mentioned below. [Well, as long as primers are well seated!] I kinda discount the NEOS because it has a slide insert that reciprocates rather than the whole slide. The P99 was great and never jammed, but I traded it in because I wanted a standard light rail (which the P99 still does not provide even after 3 generations). As a .45-aholic, I once felt compelled to add a 9mm item. Walther has scored another hit with the PPQ M2, and it just might be their most innovative pistol yet. if they make this pistoly that would take my many Glock17 magsId buy two . Squib load: You need to clear your barrel to get rid of squib load. Damaged feed ramp: A damaged feed ramp can also cause failure to feed. Short answer: Yes to both questions. I'd say if it's lubed, and eating good ammo it shouldn't jam up on you. Walther claims a forever warranty. Pretty dang good. A range master took a look at it, and it discharged while uncocked, finger off trigger. not me, ever since my p22 frame cracked and walther claimed it was outside its lifespan (10yrs old, prob 30k rounds, but i didnt tell them round count) i choose not to buy pot metal guns, or support walther for bunk biz practices. Its solution is that you replace the slide stop spring. Because if such a thing exists, Id like to get some and try it in my Ruger 22/45. If you love to wear hoodies? Failure to stay open is the failure for the slide to lock to the rear on the empty magazine. Action: semi-automatic, locked breech, short recoil operated. That isnt an uncommon thing for folks to do and itll probably obscure your sight picture a bit here. Press J to jump to the feed. Nor would gun sales have grown as they do when each department claims the Glock was the cause of an ND.only to kill a guy the next month learning to manipulate the super-safe Sig 227, Are you capable of safely dry-firing a pistol? I thought maybe it was a lemon gun, so I did some extensive Interweb searching and found numerous forums where others had the same complaint. RememberI was a Glock man! Clean and lubricate your gun to solve the issue. The solution is to install a new magazine release spring and bumper. It has a hair more creep and a very slightly longer reset and the reset is softer in noise level and feel its light but overall Id say that the differences arent easy to feel when shooting and that if youre familiar with one youll feel right at home on the other. Here we have confirmation of the lack of trigger discipline that comes with using a modern pistol. For me, its going to be a challenge for another pistol to usurp the PPQ in this department. I love my PPQs. Unless the operator is unaware or ignorant of firearm safety. I for one say that in 10 years time the PPQ will be looked at as a icon here in America, just like the P99 is iconic in European countries. These are built by Walther, not Umarex. Check the chamber to confirm the pistol is unloaded. To me the P99 AS might be the best 9mm pistol ever made. yea, a slide fracture on a .22 caliber pistol. Like most factory sights on a pistols they do leave a lot to be desired. Uses same mags as PPQ M2, PPQ Q4/Q5/SF. Haven't heard much in the way of problems with the 9mm and 40S&W versions. (This was with the original sights, havent shot with the Trijicom yet). The Walther PPQ M2 a new version of the PPQ M1, which came out about three years ago was a . Well, I have all of them Sig 1911, CZ, S&W and, of course, my favorite PPQ M2, which has fired already about 3000 bullets with no single slightest hick-up. I was happy bc they sent me a brand new Mosquito. The solution is to replace the extractor. Posted by 2 years ago. After ~3k rounds still no issues other than some dirty Armscor FTEs. HK VP9sk is a lot better option, or CZ P-10c in the same size. Most striker-fired 9mm on market (such as P320) need a lot of work. The basic maintenance and care include springs and parts that you should monitor every 5000 rounds or so. The PPK/S .22 has a small barrel sleeve that fits over the end of its threaded barrel. No pistol has as shorter trigger pull than a 1911. Even though Im right handed, I practice shooting with my left as much as I can. I love this gun. Someone over at Walther said Hey the Americans like little chunks of plastic sticking out of the frame and was greated with Ok lets dril a hole in the frame and give them a button. For a gun that flows so well the button just feels out of place and the plastic they made it out of looks and feels cheap. Gun Exemption for NYC Synagogues? Limp wristing: The solution is to have a proper grip on the gun, ensuring that your hand is up high on the beavertail. I want to work on precision shooting, noncompetitive for now. I'll double check the Walther forum. Arrgghh, the same old skinny pencil barrel design. The sleeve underneath the rear sight is missing: A specific sight uses an expanded roll pin to hold it in place. Dirt or obstruction in striker channel: If there is dirt or any other obstruction in the striker channel of your PPQ, it will fail to fire. Like I mentioned earlier, with the trigger being so smooth, I can deliver faster follow up shots accurately. That said, as long as you have your fundamentals down, you won't have any problem quickly reloading your Walther PPQ. I have never seen anybody other than a new shooter double tap with 1911 or Browning Hi Power. When Ive increased my distance from the target to around 40 to 50 feet, my groups do widen, but not significantly. According to Walthers web site, the PPQ M2 22 slide is die cast zinc, just like the P22. Now, it comes out in .22LR. That is, mechanically accurate plus however much I was screwing up sight alignment that day. The frame is the same polymer that you get on the big boy toys, and it has steel inserts for the slide rails, barrel block, and basically all of the moving parts. I leaned towards Glocks, then the PPQ M2 9mm came out. I have an older Walther p22. Seems like you would want a quicker reset for a defense gun What do I know? Certainly there are many manufacturers who make button releases that are truly ambidextrous use, the M2 is much like the G19, in that it requires a configuration change to switch. A forum community dedicated to handgun owners and enthusiasts. The P99 may have found noteworthy success among militaries and police departments around the world, but it just didnt catch on in the good old USA when compared to some other pistols. The grip form and texture are superior to Glocks. The screws in the compensator stipped after cleaning the gun 500 times. PPQ problems. Best line out of any gun review Ive ever read: if youre bored you can also mount any AR-15 or other 1/228 muzzle device, Ive solicited like 15 to 18 muzzle devices from various companies to do a shootout review, which will be coming probably at the end of the month here. The PPQ does have a machined aluminum slide. Magazine not properly seated: This problem occurs when you dont seat the magazine in the frame properly. Im pretty sure that slide is aluminum, and not any zinc junk. No feeding or extraction problems at all . Yes, the P99 was only the latest installment in the polymer-pistol world that GLOCK had established, and yes, it did notoriously (though temporarily) replace the timeless PPK as James Bonds sidearm to the polarized reactions of 007 fans. It works with easily visible sights that give faster target acquisition. Did I read that new Walther PPQ M2s are having issues? Both are mid-sized, polymer, striker-fired 9mm pistols, making them ideal for concealed carry, home defense or to serve as a go-to open carry sidearm. threaded barrel. Below is the probable cause of this problem and its solution. The 4-inch PPQ M2 barrel will fit in both frame sizes, but only when mated to 4-inch slides. Rifled Barrel. Except I wished they would have kept the Euro mag release paddles. I was very close to a Mark III or Buck Mark. I check into the Walther forum daily and have not read about any reliability issues with the 9MM PPQ M2 4 inch barrel. Hence, the only fix is to replace it. Press down on both sides of the take-down catch. This target is from 15 yards with the butt of the pistol rested on the shooting bench at my local indoor range. Here is the disassembly process for the PPQ: 2. Each time I had several unintentional double-taps. If you want a pistol with a lifetime warranty then buy one (many other Walther models have lifetime warranties for the original purchaser). They were pretty quick getting me an rma with a prepaid FedEx label, though I missed it for a few weeks because it was filtered to a folder I didnt check. Its a beautiful gun but seems plagued with issues. Clean and lubricate your PPQ to avoid this problem. Plus, the build quality inspires a higher level of confidence than the zinc alloy, farmed-out-to-a-BB-gun-factory norm. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Equipped with standard three-dot, polymer sights, the PPQ has accompanied me on almost every shooting day since I purchased it, and for good reason. easy to rack the slide, easy to eject the mag, and easy to operate the safety. The 45AUTO version has had reported issues with the material quality of their barrels. this is a reminder for those of you with a pps m2 to check your serial number against this list and verify that you have had the recall service completed on your pps m2 pistol. Took apart the striker assembly and noticed the spring looked like this. 4. The trigger pull, especially on the first shot, is quite heavy. so get this amazing Feel The Beat Hoodie Moreover, it has a hoodie-style collar with a pullover front closure and rib knitted cuffs to hold your wrist. Dirty chamber: Another probable cause for this malfunction is that the chamber is dirty. Rested groups are definitely solid but nothing exemplary. H&K VP9. Weak magazine release spring: This means that as you are shooting, the spring is so weak that your grip interferes with the button and depresses it. It certainly beats having to manually pull back the slide and check the chamber each time! With its stellar accuracy and reliability, amazing ergos, and with how quiet and easy it is to shoot suppressed, the fun factor is way high here and that is why the only thing going home to Walther in this case is a check. Running 22 pistols with my cans is just too much fun. Walther PPQ Problems and their Solutions. I cant find if this gun is DA or only SA? Am I bad for preferring the PPQ M1 paddle mag release? I ran a couple of strings of M-22 (one of their preferred ammo types), CCI 1200 and 1640 FPS, and a Remington 1200 FPS without any problems, so it appears the earlier problem is gone. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. I havent used one myself so I dont know if they only run powerful ammo of if theyll handle cheap-o bulk box stuff also and if they ever have light strikes or something like that. To solve this issue, clean the chamber. I dont normally have issues with other pistols, but its certainly possible with me I think. If you then push the slide forward it comes right off without dry firing the weapon. Why wouldnt I just get a plentiful new or used GLOCK brand GLOCK for less $? Have you taken it apart and cleaned/lubed it? Nice review. Having some problems with my Walther PPQ m2 jamming. A screw through there would fasten the mount securely to the top of the slide. A check of this pistol at a Smith forum might indicate the same problem. These police are unionized. and just to be sure were clear here in case you didnt see it in the review, the PPQ M2 .22 has no pot metal (zinc alloy, ZAMAK, etc) in it at all, No zinc alloy here. Picked up a Walther PPQ in 9mm a few days ago as a replacement to my P99. Dirty breechface or rails: When there is a lot of carbon build-up on the breechface, it causes this issue. Walther's New PPQ Subcompact Raises the Bar in the Concealed Carry Market (Full Review) by Jordan Michaels on October 18, 2018. . Ammo-sensitive. That trigger might be good for a safe-action polymer gun, but it doesnt compare to a decent SA trigger, like a CZ, 1911, or Sig. This pistol, in various forms (mostly without the lighter trigger) is the most common police pistol today across northern Europe. Also, thanks to the .22 LR magazine being so slim but the PPQ .22s grip being the normal width, the pistol benefits from a sweet magwell. Copper plated are just WAY cleaner. (Thats all I brought with me.) PPQ M1 .40. No problems with mine at all. That is an induction hardened piece, but it could break off eventually. What are those first two rules again? Walther PPQ. You wont regret purchasing the 9mm (assuming you havent already). Over the years, Ive shot a very wide variety of semi-autos in all calibers and sizes, and have never once had an inadvertent double tap. Prolly not your issue, but if I can't fix a gun issue, it goes back immediately. So, make sure to use enough force. I actually think if you give it a chance, youll see that it truly makes better ergonomic sense in terms of speed and keeping the muzzle towards the target. A lot of that was due to the weapons ban of the 90s and restrictions that were put on the pistol for importing to the US. Fit and finish are beautiful as well, this is a really nice firearm when you inspect it, unlike the colt and sig 1911 22s. IIRC we did notice markings on the rim of the case to suggest this. However, if you have a Canik TP9SFX/TP9SF/TP9SFT the 18 round mags DO work in the full size frame. This trigger compared favorably to the PPQ triggers and their smooth and easy to operate triggers. When the slide is in a particular position and you press the trigger, it will prevent the striker from cocking. Was a maintenance and care include springs and parts that you replace the slide is a. 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